and pakistan as well. >> that's right. it's a very -- the word you keep hearing from officials, kyra, is complicated. we have a very complicated relationship with pakistan. and there is some element here. you know, that old saying about don't cut off your nose to spite your face, because we're giving them the money to go after the militants and insurgents that the united states has a vested interest in seeing captured or killed. but the relationship, obviously, is very difficult on both sides, because here at home, you have political pressure from congress. as part of the new defense spending bill, the secretary of defense and the secretary of state have to sort of write a report on exactly where this money is going before congress sort of loosens the purse strings and authorizes that money to go to pakistan. and on their side, their military was humiliated by that bin laden raid. there's a lot of pressure on the pakistan side to sort of stand firm and be tough with the u.s. at this point. >> interesting to see what develo